manager Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I get this error from my Frontier 340, that the B Laser is about its lifetime. It says not to worry but to call my technical representative. What does this mean? How much more time left, or what should I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo37 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 This means that the temperature to operate the laser has risen near its max. Or its LD current has risen past the deterio current. And its current will rise until it cannot rise anymore. You might have a couple of weeks left or you might have a couple of months left. It varies from laser to laser. Look at the B-laser temperature after optimal temperature setup. It cannot go higher than 38.00 C. When it gets there you don't have much time left. Look in the classified adds for a company to repair this for you. I think they are called National Laser Company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilT Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 You can find the Mini Lab Help Classified section at -> http://www.minilabhelp.com/classifieds/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wow!!!! I have it at 37.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Who knows more? Does iti have to do with the air filters? Or anything about cooling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I would appreciate uninterested advices. Please don't put panic messages or offers for parts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo37 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 It doesn't have anything to do with the filters. This is the internal temperature that the laser runs best at. As the diode laser ages its wavelength changes and the conditions for resonance change. The machine compensates for this by doing the "Optimal Temperature Setup". But it can only go so high. Once it reaches this level it must increase the diode current to still make enough power to print properly. Once the degredation gets to the point that the current can go no higher the power starts to drop. But the machine will stop operation when the current reaches its maximum limit. About offers for parts; I would never try to offer something that a person didn't need to the best of my knowledge. And since I have been disecting and rebuilding and replacing these laser units for 3 years now I think I know a little bit about them. About panic messages; Would you want me to tell you that everything is rosey even if your laser, thus your whole machine, is going to fail anyday now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksk Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Maybe everybody will find my question is funny But ,are your chemicals OK.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I only use Fuji chemicals and have a lot of experience to know if I have anything wrong with the chemicals. I am talking here about the laser warning message. Thank you all for considering to reply my issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Rose Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hi, dealing with laser related error messages are bit panic. ( because unit expensive). i have seen many frontier with this same error message running without any problem for the last 2 years. also have seen few machines fail laser within short period after this message comes. so no one can assure when or what will be in future. but one thing sure that there is problem with B laser. also its about true that nothing can do with this error message. every time switch On machine will remind you about this. laser filters must be change in time to time to maintain proper temperature inside. i don't know why number of the frontier 330/340 modals have this same B Laser error. manufacture issue?? regards, C....R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 What is to be replaced in the end? is this laser part a board or what? Do you know what code does this B laser part have in the parts manual, on Frontier 340? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Rose Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Hi, as far as i know the repairing work will be done by mostly principle. i dont know any personal experiance with somebody who repairing laser units especially laser Gun replacements. and aleignments. off-course i admit that if someone have good knowledge and facility can do that. in parts manual no seperate code for laser guns. just as a whole part called optical unit. regds C...............R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Do you have the part code for this laser air filter on Frontier 340? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 what should be temprature of laser in optimal setup if lasers are healthy..i think this way we can check life of lasers if some one has to buy used frointier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Nobody knows what is the part code for the laser air filter on Frontier 340? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Rose Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 frontier 330/ 340 laser filter part No..........360C965288. . . . . . Regds C...........R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Rose Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 here is image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Lots of thanks!!! You've always been so responsive. I own you one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo37 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 When the temperature of the B laser reaches 38.00 deg, it cannot go any higher. So the farther from 38 deg the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 What do you think about these values from the pictures of my Frontier 340? Why is the green laser cooler but at higher current? And Blue Laser at the temperature limit(38degrees) but has a lower current. Where is the logic? Can I change anything, anyhow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo37 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 The green laser requires much more current anyway. They are two different lasers. The filter mentioned above only filters air for the anti-dust shutter. It has nothing to do with laser temperature. The lasers are located in a different part of the unit. Again, please check the classified section for a company that can repair your unit for much less than the manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yustas Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Do not try to open the laser unit and change your laser gun by yourself (even if you find it somewhere - but I doubt...). There is nothing to repair inside for the end-user. If you break the components inside - no one of laser repair companies would give you the full warranty. Regards, Eugene D. www.minilablaser.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebbabrachid Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 bonjour jai eu la meme probleme mais tous le monde me dit quil faut changer le bloc laser et cest une panne que jai endurer plus de deux ans mais jai esayer de reparer ce probleme moi meme contacte moi si tu veut desole je ne sais pas mexprimer en englais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manager Posted April 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Could this error be from varying voltage or beacause I changed the AOM after failure of one colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo37 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 No, the lasers are supplied with a very stable and filtered power source. The errors you see are form the laser itself and has nothing to do with the AOM or its driver. The blue laser must be repaired, the whole unit must be sent to a capable repair facility to be properly repaired. check the classifieds for National Laser Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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