bianchi Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Good morning, I have problems with the green LED. I can not find the model more LXHL-LMM3C therefore is not manufactured anymore. Anyone could say an equivalent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlam Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 ? ? ? ? ? ? W H A T G R E E N L E D ? ? ? ? ? on KIS machine ? ? ? ? ? help us understand to help you ! I have hundreds of LED in my drawer . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelaide887 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 can you put much detail out..... i can not follow u... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I am guessing that this is about exposure Green LED on DKS3 (and DKS4) which are very expensive when buying from KIS DKS3 (and DKS4) uses Green, Blue and Red (lot off RED LED`s ), LED as exposure source instead off the halogen lamp used on the DKS1 and DKS2. I changed a couple off this Green LED on few DKS3 and they last about 1 year (if the KIS did not change something to last longer ?) :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlam Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Thanks for sharing.. Now I learnt a lesson that DKS2 had MSB/LCD life issue and now DKS3 / DKS 4 will have LED light source costy and life issue ! Sigh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Thanks for sharing.. Now I learnt a lesson that DKS2 had MSB/LCD life issue and now DKS3 / DKS 4 will have LED light source costy and life issue ! Sigh ! I hope that KIS changed the LED type on the DKS4, but that is the 1W Green LED and should cost maybe 10€ if you find the right one, but unfortunately when buying from KIS (S/A with the diffuser) that price (with some distributor margin and VAT) is multiplied by x25 :-/, so it is not too expensive, but for one 1W LED it is too much :-/ I found one in local electronic shop (only LED without diffuser off course) for 2€, but it was not stable as original But at least I had issue only with Green one and not with others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Hi All, You can get online with RS Electronics, I am in South Africa. The Green LED is a match just does not come with the diffuser, heat sink, ect..... cost about the equivilant of about 15 Euro's. RS is a UK comapany and do have an online solution and shipping. CK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Hi All, You can get online with RS Electronics, I am in South Africa. The Green LED is a match just does not come with the diffuser, heat sink, ect..... cost about the equivilant of about 15 Euro's. RS is a UK comapany and do have an online solution and shipping. CK Goot to know, what is the part order name for that diode in RS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 This is how it should look like without difuser and heat sink !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasule michael Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 HELLO HOW GOOD IS A DKS 1770 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 1770 is good minilab with good exposure system, but there are some weak points like this Green LED, then flat cable (not expensive) near LCD, transport PCB had some issue with driving the main rack motor and exposure deck and also the feeder rollers are without suspension and they are very sensitive to adjust. The replenishment pumps are moved to the upper position so the chemistry can not get in contact with them, but I had also some issue with this pumps (Iwaki). Also it would be good if some owner off this DKS3 machine can share there experience with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 http://uk.rs-online.com/web/cpd/4685964/?searchTerm=468-5964 Part Number on the RS Site = 468-5964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasule michael Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 THANKS PSKARO, SO YOU MEAN I CAN GO AHEAD AND BUY IT COMPARED TO OTHER TYPES OF MINILABS IN THE SAME CATEGORY? I DON T WANT TO BUY A MACHINE THAT WILL CAUSE ME PROBLEMS AND FAIL TO USE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorm Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Dear sirs I have 2 DKS1710, one is over 4 years old and other is 2 year old, i have the green led problem once on the older machine ans cant recall it was expensive to repair, some euros of course but no ripp off. Then there is the flat cable on both machine had them made locally for 5 euros, machine stop for an hour because of that. Had to change rack motor on the older machine. Thats about it. (I have done maintainance on the racks, repair them before they start jamming) I can recommend this machine 100% Best regards jorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Conrad electronics has LXHL-LM3C too : http://www.conrad.com/Luxeon-LED-3W-3-star-lb.-GN-LXHL-LM3C.htm?websale7=conrad-intπ=176203&ci=SHOP_AREA_26436_0212357&Ctx=%7Bver%2F7%2Fver%7D%7Bst%2F3ec%2Fst%7D%7Bcmd%2F0%2Fcmd%7D%7Bm%2Fwebsale%2Fm%7D%7Bs%2Fconrad-int%2Fs%7D%7Bl%2Fint%2Fl%7D%7Bsf%2F%3Cs1%3ELXHL-LM3C%3C%2Fs1%3E%2Fsf%7D%7Bp1%2Fe831ded9221483b8e1aa0f679149d298%2Fp1%7D%7Bmd5%2F6f02aa165c0c14c442069a02763c1ee0%2Fmd5%7D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Photo Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I agree with jorm. I have a 4 yr. old 1710 and it has performed great. I replaced the transport board for $1,900 and a power supply for $80.00 in the time I have had the machine, including through the warrantee period. My friends with other laser machines have a nightmare replacing thier lasers and balancing the papers is a lot of work we do not have to do. It will never compare to my old optical Fuji machine, but I think it is the best digital machine for the money on the market today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bianchi Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hi all, I am coach of the KIS Minilabs in Brazil. I like some fifty KIS DKS minilabs 15, 16 and 17. For green LED, use the equivalent: LXHL-PM09. Not included sink, just de-solder. http://uk.farnell.com/lumileds/lxhl-pm09/led-luxeon-iii-emit-lamb-green/dp/1106630?Ntt=LXHL-PM09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhonchi Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Hi All, We have DKS 1610 and the GREEN LED was defective. Please send to me the information about this LED. I have no idea what is the exact voltage and ampere of this part. And also please send to me or post here the image of this GREEN LED. Thank you, Mhon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallie_nl Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Hey there Mhonchi, It's still possible to buy but now KIS upgraded the green LED's towards a new type of Lumiled. For the simple reason that these "old" LED's are not manufactured anymore ....... You need a SMD reworking station to do it properly, you need to solder the small LED unit (really small) onto a aluminium base. Beside that you need as well a new type of diffuser because the LED is much different as before .... Doeing these actions you'll have an Original green LED like KIS is using for the moment. Note: to be used in the DKS 3 and DKS 4 series Edited March 26, 2013 by Wallie_nl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhonchi Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Hi Wallie, Thank you for reply, I thought ordinary LED GREEN is okay to replace in DKS 3. Here in my place the original LED GREEN is to expensive. That's why I need to find the replacement for this part. Many Thanks, Mhon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) One time I tried with ordinary 2€ SMD Green LED, but it was not stable and fast as original one Edited March 28, 2013 by pskaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallie_nl Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Hey Mhonchi, I understand but to use the new LED's from Lumiled you really need an SMD reworking station. The LED needs to be assembled on a aluminium mounting, this is possible with a SMD reworking station and a steady hand ;-) Just like Pskaro told, the use of different LED's will fluctuate to much and don't give a steady production. So .... at the end it's possible with the right tools needed. Regards, Wallie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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