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Color Management Help Please


markw

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Hello All,

At our lab we have a QSS-3202 and we are trying to get a handle on color management.  Can an ICC profile be set on the Noritsu and if so where?  Let me explain our setup and problem.

We use Kodak DP2 for our printing software and in the software we use custom .ICC profiles.  Our profiles are created on a Barbieri Spectro Swing.  The problem is the highlights. They have a magenta tint to them and gradients look very bad especially on light, pale skin tones and images with white backgrounds where there is light falloff.

We also have a Durst Theta76 which has no problems at all with the profiles.  I can scan and attach some examples from printers if you need to see what I'm talking about. I've talked with Kodak and gotten all the help I can there and every time I call Noritsu no one seems to understand ICC profiling. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark

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I am sure if you are using DP2 you can assign a profile at that stage and have a different one for each printer output if they are different.

Unfortunately you will be printing your samples on the 32 with the Noritsu profile as you can not turn it off (you can on the 37 or EZ controller machines)

Give us some more information

Profile used

Paper used

What country are you in?

Have you tried printing the same files direct on the QSS with no auto corrections applied and are these the same as when printing through DP2. I often find the more places you have to adjust the worse it gets

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I am sure if you are using DP2 you can assign a profile at that stage and have a different one for each printer output if they are different.

Unfortunately you will be printing your samples on the 32 with the Noritsu profile as you can not turn it off (you can on the 37 or EZ controller machines)

Give us some more information

Profile used

Paper used

What country are you in?

Have you tried printing the same files direct on the QSS with no auto corrections applied and are these the same as when printing through DP2. I often find the more places you have to adjust the worse it gets

Thanks for your reply! We do have custom profile assigned for each printer output in DP2.

I'm not sure what profile is loaded on the Noritsu but in DP2 we have our custom profile loaded.

We are using Kodak Super Endura E-surface paper (VC)

USA

I have not tried printing the image directly from the Noritsu but will try that first thing tomorrow!  I'll keep you posted.

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Depending on what software version the machine is running there is an option for the machine to read embedded profiles or ignore them. See attached PDF

Have a look at this website it tells you everything you need to know about colour management.

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/

Thanks for the attachment!! That is pointing me in the right direction.  I'll try that option tomorrow and also print directly from the QS by passing DP2.  I'll print an image with an Srgb profile embedded and another one with our custom profile and see if there is a difference.

Thanks for the help and the link!

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Thanks all for the help. I was finally able to resolve the issue.  I printed images straight from the Noritsu and the images looked way better than what DP2 was printing!  I even printed rendered images from DP2 directly on the Noritsu and they printed fine.  The various embedded profiles were being honored.  Any images directly from DP2 had blown highlights.  

Next I created an entirely new queue and printer setup in DP2 to make sure we had no extra corrections being applied. Still had the same issue.  Finally I checked around the Noritsu for corrections.  Apparently the Hot Folder settings on the Noritsu had corrections being applied. Contrast was on +3 and sharpness was -8.  After resetting these to 0 the queue from DP2 printed exactly as if it were printed straight from the Noritsu.  I created a new ICC color profile on our spectroswing the colors are now printing very accurately with no highlight issues!

Thanks for the help and pointing me in the right direction!

Mark W.

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