bob100684 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I've been working in labs for quite a while now, but suddenly After years and years of using fuji equipment, I'm thrown into a store with a qss3501F equipped with the S1-II scanner. With the frontiers I worked on, setting the print size to 8x12 on some models, or 10x15 on 10" models would allow the highest possible resolution scans. With the noritsu, I can choose between the different bases, and apparently there is a - trick, so I guess I could scan at about 2400x3600 pixels. The confusion is, http://www.noritsu.co.jp/english/news/20050930.html there noritsu says I can scan at Maximum resolution4011 x 6048 pixels from 35mm full frame. How do I go about setting up for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi, When setting up your print channel and you ask it to save to HDD use base setting - , this will scan in the neg at the highest possible res for that paper size. this may vary from paper width to paper width. As long as you have in the print channel wether it is 4". 6" or 8" a paper advance of 14" you will scan in at the highest res available. So if you have a 4x6 channel set up as long as you have in the pano settings a 4x12 the same will apply. so if you are doing an 8x12 and you have your base setting to - , then you will be scanning in at the highest res availble. Rgds CK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 so, what you're saying is, despite the scanner being quoted as being able to produce a 4000x6000 pixel file, because of the machine i'll essentially be limited to a 2400x3600 pixel file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 no not at all. when setting up your print channel with base size that does no show base, 4base, 16base but show a dash - this will maximise your scanning res to your print size. so if your print size is 8x12 and you are set up to with a dash setting you will be scanning in at 4000x6000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I'll have to try that. I think I have the fuji system so far into my head I figured it would work by scanning at 300dpi per output size--4x6=1200x1800,8x12=2400x3600 pixels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photocorp Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 You might like to refer to this spreadsheet as a guide as it pertains to QSS "base" settings etc. I created this about 7 years back for retail staff new to digital minlabs and alien terminologies. Some of the information may appear a little dated. As you can see, a frame scanned at 64 base (-) resolution has the potential to generate a tiff file around 90mb. Figures quoted are approximations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 thank you for the spreadsheet. A further question then, is it possible to make the noritsu output tiffs instead of jpgs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photocorp Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Bob. These two extracts are from the QSS29 manual. I'm not familiar with your QSS35 desktop but should be the same options. Simply change the default from JPEG to TIFF in the drop down dialog box. BMP and Flashpix are the other alternatives. Note: your options for any particular "base" level output are pre-defined in Media Settings (Option Registration) for the HD or any other output device. Referring to CK's post above. To maximise your output file size to media / HD or ext drive, set the defaults to the largest possible, then go to the 12 x 18 print channel and uncheck/disable print. OR copy paste for a dedicated channel ditto. If you forget to turn off Print, you might as well scan the neg and take time out for a large Cappucino next door whilst the printer grapples with the numbers, reformats and down sizes it back to sRGB to print your 12 x 18!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 well, it seems that scanning at the 8x12 output size freezes the 3501, and gives an "auto film carrier communication error". Lesson learned, oh well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Noritsu Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 There is something not right here. We had a 3502 ( a faster version of the 3501) and we regularly did 16base 2000px x 3000px scans from 35mm negs, and I don't remember the size of our medium format scans. We never had a problem with lockups or freezes. It slowed the machine down, but it worked fine. What model scanner do you have? Maybe that's the problem. We had the scanner which took all the film carriers like the 35mm/aps unit, 120 unit and mmc carrier. I know there is another model scanner which was a lower price and only took 35mm and/or APS. I don't remember the designations but ours may have been an S3? Perhaps the lower price scanners don't scan as high as the more expensive one? Just guessing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 we have the low cost scanner which indeed only does 35mm and APS. When I set for base 16, all is well and good, but setting it for - and the print size to 8x12 yields freezes, not higher than base 16 scans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photocorp Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Freezing on 8 x 12!!!! How much RAM do you have on board. May need to upsize the specs by adding another slab, taking it to 512Mb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 yeah......maybe a good idea, but this new job, for the first time instead of an independent, I'm working for somewhere that is a pharmacy chain....can't exactly mod the machine of a huge corporation without them noticing. Getting them to carry matte paper instead of just glossy was enough of a struggle. And it didn't freeze on the first scan. About 2/3 of the roll fed back out before it froze and gave the auto carrier msg. I'll try again and take down an error msg this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiecameras Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well if you are working for a big pharmacy chain you just ring up the tech and get him to fix it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 If it were something that needed a tech, yeah, but changing the machine settings from how it was set up by the tech, or adding ram for my little pet project is not going to impress them or get them to come to the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photocorp Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Again, not relevant to your QSS35xx so much, but these couple of pages from the techo's Training Manual give you an idea of how RIMM/RAM/DIMM specification relates to pixel and scan size capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob100684 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 very interesting. Just out of curiosity for you guys, how long would you say it takes approximately to make base 16 scans for a roll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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