coloursphotographic Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 ANYONE HERE HELP MY GPE DIGITAL CARRIER IS CHURNING OUT BLANK PRINTS IT ALL COMUNICATES WITH MACHINE GOES THROUGH CYCLE OF PRINTING ETC BUT THE PRINTS COME OUT BLANK,EVERYTHING PRINTS FINE ON THE FILM SIDE SO THINKING IT COULD MAYBE BE A PROBLEM WITH THE ATI RADEON GRAPHICS CARD. ANY ONE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT COULD BE THE FAULT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowe Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Hi Seems that shutter dont open. When D-Carries does work shutter opens and let light goes to paper. We had samekind of faults, can be oher too. This vas easy to fix only tightening the hex nut. Rowe Hope to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloursphotographic Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 hi rowe just tried that the hex nut seems quite tight (couldnt tighten any further) the shutter does open and close when the control unit is swithched on and off although cant see it it opening when i look inside machine when putting it through the simulation cycle so it leads me to beleive its either the motor on the carrier deck near the shutter or the radeon graphis card ? not sure what else causes the shutter in the d carrier deck to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colopt Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 What machine are you using it with? I had this problem with a 2611 with efiliming carrier & it was the lens deck not moving into position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloursphotographic Posted November 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 its running on a san marco, its now driving me nuts it now seems to be exposing all colour filters ok and running through its complete cycle but no image seems to be reaching the carrier once print appears it is now just plain black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photographis Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 if its plain black, then it isn't the shutter not functioning. Looks like the card misbehaving, or as Colopt said, the lens not moving into place. I would favour the card, having seen a faulty card at 'work'. Is it possible to test the output? presumably it is a double output card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloursphotographic Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 the card has both a vga and dvi socket and carrier is connected to dvi,the shutter in carrier seems to be spinning ok all software seems to initialise succesfully and comunicates with machine i can preview images all ok but when it goes into print cycle it brings the image back to screen and its like its all solarised,just made up of little dots.when the print comes out have tried it on all sizes its just black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sait Terekli Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Dear coloursphotographic I am service technician for GPE carriers in Turkey. which minilab you have, do you have led carrier or? did you control led lights on test in program? did you control double monitor on PC.? did you control DVI cable. if you still have problem, please write me or call me. msn and mail is: saitterekli@hotmail.com mobil is: +90 533 712 44 27 Sait Terekli, istanbul- Turkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloursphotographic Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 thanks sait i have double monitor on pc all lights seem to be working on control box its connected to a san marco machine and uses the machines built in light source,its printing from negs ok. i seem to now think it could be the graphics card playing up and will try and replace it and see how i get on unless you can suggest trying anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I had the same problem with Gratag 740 and C-Carrier. Prints were completely black. It seemed like a bad connection on dvi cable. We put the cable going to the carrier over the side of the minilab. (Going in on an angle into the carrier). Works for us, if we let the cable lie loose and go straight into the carrier we still get black prints. Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sait Terekli Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Dear Coloursphotographic, ctrl+shift+f12 button from keyboard than go to test, than open led R and led G and led B ONE BY ONE. if they are OK. open led Green light and open epson switch. if you see any difference. than you can print. if you see only green light, it is not OK. please write my msn or call me, I explane you .when you call me , you should be near minilab and open kitinterface. good luck. Sait Terekli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloursphotographic Posted November 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 A Big Thanks to all who responded to my plea for help after nearly a week of trying just about everything from reloading windows and d carrier software to buying a new graphics card i have finally fixed the problem thank you LJ for your high tech suggestion. it was either a loose dvi cable or cables not sitting right after wiggling them around.. machine is now digital again.. also thanks to sait for your suggestions must get you over to scotland some time for a working holiday as soon as i can afford your airfare.. Praise The Lord For Minilabhelp.com ............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colopt Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Good to hear its working again. So often ends up being the simplest things that cause the problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Glad I could help. Hopefully one day there will be an affordable drylab solution for smaller operators like us as well. My Gretag will make a great bonfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloursphotographic Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 LJ I wouldn't dismiss your gretag to a bonfire just yet...I think they produce ok prints from a digital carrier considering they are primarily analog labs, I own both gretag and san marco machines and although these are now approx 10 years old are still going strong they very rarely have anything major go wrong with them if well looked after they should in theory last forever, if someone would only take the time to design a proper digital upgrade for some of these labs there could still be many more in use today,at the end of the day its only a laser unit thats bolted on that gives it the digital tag. I once had to get an electronics engineer(not connected to photographic industry) of some 30 yrs standing to sort a problem on a circuit board i couldnt diagnose myself. when he looked at the electronics build of the machine he thought they were extremely well designed and couldnt beleive the build quality of the electronics and circuits he thought they were of very high quality. I only wish gretag were still around today who knows what kind of drylab or even digital wet lab they may have brought to the market at a reasonable price.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskaro Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Gretag manufactured there D-Carrier by name d.gity (manufactured by Mullersohn): http://www.smi-grp.com/pdf/dgity_brochure.pdf I installed several unit on Master Lab and Master Flex and it was coming with 3 fixed lenses, software for PC which was able even to use machine densitometer for doing setup for d.gity format channels. It was good unit for 10x15, 15x20 and 20x27, but for 13x18 was bad because it was using the same lens as 20x27 with smaller image on LCD. Setup using the internal Gretag densitometer is the good feature but it takes a lot off time to get setup correct (to pass the test). Also, this format channels were not connected to master balance and they do not have one master balance, instead it was necessary to balance each format channel one by one (every day, after each change off the lamp..) Software was also not very intuitive to make a prints... But if everything was setup properly the final image was very good (it is additive machine on the end ;-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tis Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Hallo. I have a problem with a D-carrier. The picture is black. After restart and removing/reinstaling d-carrier, the picture is normal, but in short time the minilab print black picture again. I change the DVI cable, but without result. Thanks in advance for help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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