AJLA Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'm sure I have seen a thread on here at some point. The search has drawn a blank and I can't see it for looking. Any one any ideas ? Had a customer put one in the kiosk to view and select the photo number. Put it in my mc which then crashed, although we would usually open this in one of the other pc's I was unable to do so. We sell and print from these often so what's happened? :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLA Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 No one had any bad experience with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photographis Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 you are correct, there was a thread which talked about these. not sure where it is, but I remember the general conclusion was 'these cards are cranky'. At the time I hadn't had a problem and wondered what all the fuss was about, now my heart sinks whenever I see an xd card. some will only be seen by one pc, others by all but one, and others by none. Realy strange as all pc's are setup the same, only thing that differs is the reader. Usualy it is the cheapest reader that wins out, go figure that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLA Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 That has been exactly my experience regarding different pc's reading them. Now I have a dilema tho as nothing will read it not even the girls own camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photographis Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Suggest you tell her these cards are causing problems industry wide. I presume you have your 'disclaimer' notice on show? I have found that a format (if you can find it!) sometimes helps, although the line I tend to take is that the card has 'broken down', which for all intent and purpose, it has. Suggest she returns it to the seller, for possible warranty replacement. What else can you do ? Recovery software will not work if it can't be found........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think what happens has something to do with the file structure. We had a card that read once but then failed to read on the next machine. It had worked in the past. Would not read in the camera etc. Went back to the original machine and it now would not read. So something must of been changed on the card even though it was only being read. Had to use file recovery to get images back. Reformatted card afterwards and all was OK again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photographis Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 spot on Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.T Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Had similar experiences. The 'H'type seem to be the most troublesome. Had several that simply cannot be opened by anything including the camera that they were used in. Recovery software won't help either. I'fve also noticed that some become very slow to read, perhaps this is the precursor to failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photographis Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 sounds about right to me, Tony. had a similar problem with an SD card (very unusual) but after rescue and format it seemed fine. It lasted another couple of months, then failed completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colopt Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I would try doing a recovery on the card, you never know. I have had problems with them, it's something to do with them being a "dual layer" card, whatever that means. They seem very vulnerable to being corrupted. I only use them with a sandisk 12 in 1 reader, and haven't had any problems since using it. I still get nervous when I see them, and I try to make sure the customer does all the handling of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLA Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Thanks for your input guys, no doubt we will be blamed if the recovery does not work. "It worked fine before" is what she will say. By the way photographis we do have a disclaimer but it just relates to Care in particular and not to digital. Does anyone have a disclaimer particulary for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photographis Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 thats a very good point actualy. Just read ours through, and 'value of media' doesn't quite cut it. It would be interesting to see what the PMA advise on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLA Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 DITTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpcrichard Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 We use only the olympus mausb-300 reader or the mausb-500 and never had a problem and we deal with up to 10-15 of the m,h m+, h+ types a day in both copy to dvd or on the koisks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 May be you can update the firmware of your card reader!!!! firmware is not driver => just to remenber This application is used for kodak kiosk G3/G4 for the XD (M,blue color) Card reader and the SD card reader more of 2Gb frenchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I also have found that corrupt XD cards, can be recovered using a ma-usb dedicated XD card reader and recovery program. I have also heard that putting the 'corrupt card' into a multi reader can cause PC lock-up and make the card un-readable on the customers own camera! I suggest when you get an corrupt XD card is not to open it on a kiosk or any multi card reader until you have a mau-usb reader!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colopt Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I agree, I have learnt through bad experience that if you are having trouble reading a card, don't stuff around with it and start trying it in different readers, it will only make the problem worse. Put in to a known good reader and perform a recovery, before it's too late. The XD cards are usually corrupted as a result of them being put into a non compatible reader, that is all it takes, and you won't be able to read it in the camera or anything else. see also: http://www.minilabhelp.com/forum/Blah.pl?m-1202985073/s-new/ and: http://www.minilabhelp.com/forum/Blah.pl?m-1142601487/s-new/ I use the sandisk 12 in 1 reader, and the Olympus MAUSB reader, although that seems to be incredibly slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Too many fake branded cards flying around courtesy of ebay some work fine but are generally slower than the branded ones ie Magigate. A lot have problems with the pin-out contacts especially Sony ones they can have a gap between the contacts and the plastic front edge and they catch the contacts in the card reader damaging it for the next user. Even worse when they find it wont work on a kiosk and they go down the line buggering all the readers before they ask for help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLA Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 We have today received our Sandisc 12 in 1 card reader which many of you guys seem to use for these lovely m/H type Xd cards, however it will only work on our lab and not our pc's :-/ Any ideas as I would rather not put it into the lab and use the external pc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I am brand new at this. I manage a Photlab in Canada. I need to know how to post a question. I have a frontier technical question and need to pole the user of this site. Can you help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 go to home page then go into fuji section then on top right you`ll see NEW THREAD click on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colopt Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 The San Disk card reader should just be plug and play. Mine did need a firmware upgrade some time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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