Labyrinth1003 Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Hi, we recently moved to new location. We have 2 QSS green IV, we seem to lose one dongle. Is there a way to connect the 2 printers to one EZ controller computer operator with one dongle key hardware? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 It is possible to use few EZ controllers with one dongle, but only very old versions ( can work on Windows XP ) . Old versions check dongle only during EZ controller startup. Newer versions has additional security and if dongle removed you see missing dongle error ( when try to print, access menu, etc ) . Any EZ controller can work without dongle. Just need to know how to do it. Even EZ controller 8.10 perfectly works without dongle. If your QSS Green 4 have RIP computers then you connect them to one EZ controller. Then from one computer can print on two printers ( should be different names - for example QSS Green 4-1 and QSS Green 4-2 ) . To one EZ controller can be connected 8 printers. For one customer I connected 4 dry printers. They all worked perfectly and customer used all of them. Of course can work only one operator ( because computer, display, mouse. EZ controller only one ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinth1003 Posted September 14 Author Report Share Posted September 14 Thanks for the reply. I have Ez ver 6.72.004 in one PC machine, and a later Ez ver on the other machine, which i used to connect the other printer, but before both have the dongle in each pc. But when i lost the dongle and i try to log in the to the Operator EZ controller, the other printer has error says it is offline and need to shut it down. Can you help me how to connect the one with lost dongle to the latest Version of EZ controller without asking the dongle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinth1003 Posted September 14 Author Report Share Posted September 14 Additionally, we were using windows 10 on the newer Ez controller and Win7 Pro on the old one which i am using at the moment (has all the channels i need). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 try USB Redirector. I used the latest version EZ-Controller 8.0 and it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinth1003 Posted September 17 Author Report Share Posted September 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, DonCorleone said: try USB Redirector. I used the latest version EZ-Controller 8.0 and it works Hi @DonCorleon, thanks for the answer. What is a USB Redirector? I have a 6.7 on a Win7 machine and a 8.10 on Win10 on another, and i want to print on both machines using the Win10 version and have one dongle that can work for both but not without on the older version , and how do i go about using this USB Redirector with one dongle? Edited September 17 by Labyrinth1003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TECNOR Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 I think the best is use only pc with ECZ with two printer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 (edited) To use two or more printers on one EZ controller printers should be connected through RIP computers. USB Redirector is software to transfer USB from one computer into other. USB equipment removed from one computer and will be transferred to other computer. After that dongle will not be first computer, but it will be on second computer. In your case more easy unplug USB dongle from first computer and plug in it into second computer. You will have the same results. Edited September 17 by Minilab service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 USB Redirector allows you to share the Sentinel dongle and use it on several devices simultaneously (similar to donglify). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 If this software doesn't remove dongle on original computer and allows to use on few computers then can use it. It is the best solution, when you have one dongle and few computers with EZ controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 But it's probably easier (and cheaper) to connect two printers to one computer. All you need to do is purchase an additional network card. Then one operator can see two printers from the EZ-Controller level (maximum is 8 printers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 (edited) Network card is used to connect RIP computer. If I understand well he has two Green 4 without RIP computers. His printers using USB directly connected to computers with EZ controller. So the best would be to use USB Redirector. USB Redirector can be used, if this software really doesn't remove dongle from first computer. All other software, which I used to share USB ( KernelPro usb over ethernet, FabulaTech USB over Network, VirtualHere ) removed shared USB from original computer. If USB Redirector is different - can use it. On USB Redirector web page see : Please note that shared USB device CAN NOT BE USED LOCALLY, because it is acquired for individual usage by remote USB clients! To make the device available locally again, you need to unshare it. If this information is correct - dongle on first computer will be removed and first computer EZ controller will not see it. Edited September 19 by Minilab service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 (edited) You're right. I looked at my notes and shared 2 keys for 2 virtual machines, not one key... my mistake. However, if the printers are connected to the computer with an RJ45 cable, a network card may be the solution. I don't know what "RIP" means. Transferring channels is a simple matter. Edited September 19 by DonCorleone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 USB Redirector works absolutely the same as other USB transfer software. Software can remove dongle from one computer and transfer it into other. Printers connected using RJ45 cable only when have RIP computers. If I understand well his printers do not have RIP computers. Printers using USB connected directly to computers with EZ controller. When printers have RIP computers to one EZ controller can connect 8 printers ( using LAN ) . When printer have not RIP computer then to EZ controller can connect one printer ( using USB ) . He can install two RIP computers and connect two printers to one EZ controller, or buy second dongle and use two EZ controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinth1003 Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 (edited) On 9/18/2023 at 8:23 PM, DonCorleone said: But it's probably easier (and cheaper) to connect two printers to one computer. All you need to do is purchase an additional network card. Then one operator can see two printers from the EZ-Controller level (maximum is 8 printers) Hi, the 2 printers are connected to each own PC and both PC has extra network card, and connected to single network, they both have each own EZ controller, as i understand these printers need to be turned by the PC it is connected to. Basically, they were operating as 2 separate printers before shifting to new location where we lose one dongle. i am finding a way to connect these 2 since then to a single operator PC, using one of the 2 PCs. Edit: Right now i can still use both separately. The 6.7 EZ uses the remaining dongle (always searching for the key hardware when starting up)and the 8.10 EZ can print without dongle. Edited September 20 by Labyrinth1003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinth1003 Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 12 hours ago, Minilab service said: USB Redirector works absolutely the same as other USB transfer software. Software can remove dongle from one computer and transfer it into other. Printers connected using RJ45 cable only when have RIP computers. If I understand well his printers do not have RIP computers. Printers using USB connected directly to computers with EZ controller. When printers have RIP computers to one EZ controller can connect 8 printers ( using LAN ) . When printer have not RIP computer then to EZ controller can connect one printer ( using USB ) . He can install two RIP computers and connect two printers to one EZ controller, or buy second dongle and use two EZ controllers. Hi, I still don’t understand what is the RIP computer. Isn’t it the EZ controller is the RIP of the Noritsu printers? Basically i am using 2 RIPs for 2 separate noritsu printers? Or there is a separate software in separate PC to connect EZ controllers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilab service Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 (edited) RIP computer second is computer, which is beside printer. Usually it is without monitor, keyboard and mouse. RIP computer to EZ controller computer connected using LAN cable. Printer to RIP computer is connected using USB cable. Look where connected printer USB cable. If printer USB connected NOT to computer with EZ controller, but to other computer ( which is beside printer ) then you have RIP computer. If printer USB connected directly to computer with EZ controller then you have not RIP computer. With RIP computers to EZ controller can connect 8 printers. Without RIP computers to EZ controller can connect only one printer. You wrote "2 printers are connected to each own PC and both PC has extra network card" . Do you mean printer using USB connected to own PC ands this PC using network connected to other computer where is EZ controller ? What do you mean " 8.10 EZ can print without dongle" ? EZ controller starts without dongle, or just after startup with dongle software allows to print without it? Edited September 20 by Minilab service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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